Monster Super League Tier List 2019
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Hey guys:)took us some weeks to complete it. Since we dont have a Tierlist for a long time, we thought about helping here.Specific Content (Golem, Collo, Dragon) is not included yet, since i think you want to show lineups and that stuff here instead of a ranking.I added a category with nat 2-3 mons in general since it's a question that i often read here from newer player.We had some really hard discussion while ranking the mons, specially the Arena part was really heated:DHope it will help you and please give me some feedback if you find mistakes or anything. Just keep in mind, even if we have countless discussions it's still biased.regsNesteaps: thanks again for the help and discussions guys:). Couple of comments here for context: This tierlist was made with end-game in mind i.e.
Evo3 and good gem setups and books for nat4 (if you want early game look at the nat 2-3 section) which is why some rankings will seem harsh to most mons not nat5/super.For simplicity there was no +/- rating for inbetween (like A+ and A-) which is why some mons can seem to be too good or not good enough for certain ranks but was still ultimately agreed upon with its current rank.Lastly, nothing should beat your own judgement. If you know what monsters you own you should have a general idea of what you lack and what you should build. You arent going to make a team of 16 water curas just because theyre S for fire titan(yes exaggeration but an example). Toy blast hack cheat online.
I'd never put Dark Seastar on the same tier as Dark Perse. Imo, she is also S rank. Nor would I put Dark Arthur on the same tier with his horrendous sap AOE. I'm not even sure about Dark Cupid, he's really not that usable in the top 50 PVP IMO because his shield doesn't hold up well at all and the fact that he's HP aggressor makes him a mediocre healer.Obviously this is an example of your disclaimer given on your first page, so newer guys take heed! No tier list is ever gospel, but I have no doubts this is a good guide and something I'll use with a grain of salt, myself. Thanks for putting this together.:).
I ran through the light mons in pvp tier list, some suggestions:. Include glass cannon build for attackers in gem suggestions. It works just as well or better than atk/hp/cr or atk/atk/hp in certain teams. Light D'Art: should have a higher rating than light Jack-o-Lyn.
50% morale boost is enough to have active skill up after turn 1 most of the time while 30% often isn't. He also has atk% lead while light Jack's lead is useless. Light Sphinx description: 'Sadly the elemental advantage is on a light mon, which is mediocre since in the arena meta a lot of dark mons are being used' - while on light Indra you say: 'Elemental Edge works decent against all these light mons in the current meta.' That's a bit contradictory, saying that elemental edge is decent on a light mon and also saying that it's bad. Light Sparkitt: I feel like that D rating is a bit low for a 100% shocker that also has an HP lead, decent active skill and skill upgrades.
Super light Yuki: 'As Super Evo and with books shes comparable to light Arthur and B-Ranked.' - she's actually better than light Arthur. With 3500 base atk + 30% from skill ups she does more dmg (she also has the increased multiplier on active skill just like Arthur), light Yuki's active skill is better, she has a crit dmg lead while Arthur has no lead for pvp and also a super skill.
Super Yukina is tankier than Arthur too (3k more hp, 100 more def). If light Arthur is B, Yukina should be A with super evo (B without it).
Fire boltwing should say S teir if booked, better rates than odin when booked and odin is S tier. Fire Penpen should be at least an A having used him. The only way fire Penpen doesn't land att down is if the titan explicitly resists. You can't say that about any other debuffer.
In terms of numbers, fire penpen quickly approaches a 96.33% chance of having att down on the titan. Thats higher than unbooked wood sanzang and just a little less than booked wood sanzang.Water odin lead doesn't work for titans, remove that note. Water beth really should be moved down to a C, Bulbie and sand wraith are much better. Water draka and booked snows rankings make no sense with cotteen at S rank. Either you have enough access to mons to replace all your cotteens with water bast, in which case cotteen should be A rank, or you don't, in which case water draka should be much higher.
Weaken stacks with att down, so you can reduce damage taken even further that way. With booked snow, 80/80 rates for double att down is definatly S ranked if you don't have like 6 water indras or something. Also water bellpup is missing, should be A or B ranked.Wood sanzang should be S ranked if fire odin is S ranked.
Rumble fighter steez. She has only 10% total proc rate on debuffs, but it is more wieghted to 3. skill which is more likly to be used.
Also double debuffers are generally better than mixed debuffers and wood has great double def downers to compliment her. Wood bast should probably be S ranked, 3 turn attack up was enough to get water cura S ranked, def down passive does something because even wood wukong fails def down every once in a while, and with a merlin merlin hanna bast lineup for left side bast give a leader skill that actually benefits the merlins even if it isn't the best lead, and att up is worth almost as much damage as a third merlin. Wood leo really should be moved down to match verde. He is better, but not by that much. Wood radis need to be moved down to B, or lupin needs to be moved up to A. I messed up my previous lupin vs radis calcs, lupin actualy has an 85.82% chance of having att down on the titan on any given turn past turn 2(turn 4 with seal) and radis only has an 85.69% chance of having attack down on the titan on any given turn past turn 3 (5 with seal).
This increases to 90.50% vs 90.05% if you factor in a hanna spamming her heal like a venus (It is literaly impossible to do the calc with her actual ai, sorry). However, if you add in a maxed booked wood leo it becomes 95.33% vs 95.57% in radises favor.Most of the LD healers are labled for the wrong titan. Using a light healer vs dark titan is a negligable increase in damage over a rgbd healer, but the increase in the amount of damage your healer takes is not negligable.This is all supposed to be constructive criticism, if I didn't think the tier list was so good already I wouldn't have bothered with this detail. Lots of infos, very nice. I partly agree, while i partly have to disagree. For example i cant see a beth in the c ranking. Shes not as good as a bulbie or a sand wraith, but still much better than the mons in the c-rank.
I would see them as good and bad b-ranks.Why does water drakas ranking compared to cotteen make no sense? Cotteen is still the best defensive healer with bastet and i also dont see bastet over her. U basically trade a debuff for healing power. Both are kinda equal and needed and Bastet is the reason why draka is a on a much lower ranking. The space is limited, i want indras, balronas and those and not another debuffer that takes a space. I can get the weaken from a healer, so why give away a slot that a cs attacker can take.
Same reason why lucy is low rated. Why use a debuffer when u can use Indra. These mons have to be compared to each other with having an overall view on it.Also u are comparing monsters from different elements in titans, which is just wrong. The ranking has to be within the same element or same titan. Fire odin in my eyes is the best debuffer the element has when u compare her massive hp and high debuffing skills to bw for example, the difference is quite big. What i want to say is, that for the wood element, odin is the top, while sanzang can be replace by radis, by lupin and even by cs attacker like canna because u have more attack downer in that element that are good. A small side note would also be, that dark venus normally should be mostly see in the fight against the water Titan, because here she can heal a fair amount of hp while surviving longer than the pinos.
That means another attacker downer.I take a look at the whole comment when i'm home because i found lots of useful stuff that i want to include as well.
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